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Thir, Johann Georg

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  1. A dictionary of violin makers (1896)

    Thir, Johann Georg. Was working in Vienna in 1791. A violoncello of good work, made on a large pattern, had dark yellow-brown varnish. Label: “Johannes Georgius Thir fecit Viennae, anno 1791.”

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    1. Thir, Johann Georg. Was working in Vienna in 1791. A violoncello of good work, made on a large pattern, had dark yellow-brown varnish. Label: "Johannes Georgius Thir fecit Viennae, anno 1791."
    3. Thomassin. Worked under Clément at Paris, rue des Bons-Enfants, was a clever workman and made good violins. He signed them with his name about 1825-45.

  2. A dictionary of violin makers (n.d.)

    Thir, Johann Georg. Was working in Vienna in 1791. A violoncello of good work, made on a large pattern, had dark ellow-brown varnish. Label: ‘Johannes Georgius Thir fecit Viennae, anno 1791.’

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    1. Thir, Johann Georg. Was working in Vienna in 1791. A violoncello of good work, made on a large pattern, had dark ellow-brown varnish. Label: 'Johannes Georgius Thir fecit Viennae, anno 1791.'
    3. Thomassin. Worked under Clément at Paris, rue des Bons-Enfants, was a clever workman and made good violins. He signed them with his name about 1825-45.

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Record note

What this record rests on is A dictionary of violin makers (1890); A dictionary of violin makers (1890); A dictionary of violin makers (1896), naming this maker and nothing more. Entries from 2 books stand under this name, and the software judged them near-certain the same person. Tell us if that is wrong and we will split the record. Nothing else on this site confirms it and no claim has been invented beyond that naming — not established, until someone can tell us more.

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Places and dates of work
Thir, Johann Georg. Was working in Vienna in 1791. A violoncello of good work, made on a large pattern, had dark ellow-brown varnish. Label: ‘Johannes Georgius Thir fecit Viennae, anno 1791.’ reported1
Places and dates of work
Thir, Johann Georg. Was working in Vienna in 1791. A violoncello of good work, made on a large pattern, had dark ellow-brown varnish. Label: ‘Johannes Georgius Thir fecit Viennae, anno 1791.’ reported1
Places and dates of work
Thir, Johann Georg. Was working in Vienna in 1791. A violoncello of good work, made on a large pattern, had dark yellow-brown varnish. Label: “Johannes Georgius Thir fecit Viennae, anno 1791.” reported1

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3 of the 3 lines here were read from machine text (software that turns a photo of a page into words), not by a person looking at the page image. 1 of them rests on a section heading above a list of names, not on a trade word printed on its own line: “A DICTIONARY OF VIOLIN MAKERS.”.

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The books behind this record

This record draws on 2 sources. Each is listed below with how it was read, because a claim read from a photo of the page is stronger than one read from machine text.

  1. Stainer, C. (Cecie), 1867-1937, A dictionary of violin makers (London: Novello, n.d.). archive.org, dictionaryofviol00stai. https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofviol00stai.machine textcited for 1 linesource record

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  2. Stainer, C. (Cecie), 1867-1937, A dictionary of violin makers (London: Novello, n.d.). archive.org, dictionaryofviol1899stai. https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofviol1899stai.machine textcited for 1 linesource record

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  3. Stainer, C. (Cecie), 1867-1937, A dictionary of violin makers (London ; New York: Novello, Ewer, 1896). archive.org, dictionaryofviol00stai_0. https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofviol00stai_0.machine textcited for 1 linesource record

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