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Silvestre, Pierre

1801–1859

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  1. A dictionary of violin makers (1896)

    Silvestre, Pierre, brother of Hippolyte; b. Aug. 9, 1801, at Sommerville, near Nancy; d. 1859, Lyons. Was also a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, …

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    1. Siciliano, Gioacchino, son of Antonio Siciliano. Was working in Venice about 1680.
    2. Silva, Joan Vieira da. Was working in Lisbon about 1700. A cither is known of his, inlaid with tortoiseshell and ivory, with six pairs of wire strings.
    3. Silvestre, Hippolyte, b. Dec. 14, 1808, Saint-Nicolas-du-Port (Meurthe); d. Dec. 3, 1879, Sommerville, near Nancy. Was first a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, then of J. B. Vuillaume at Paris. In 1831 he joined his brother Pierre at Lyons, and worked with him till 1848. On the death of Pierre in 1859 he again took up the business, and continued in it till 1865, when he transferred it to H. Chrétien, his sister's son, and retired to Sommerville, where he died.
    4. Silvestre, Pierre, brother of Hippolyte; b. Aug. 9, 1801, at Sommerville, near Nancy; d. 1859, Lyons. Was also a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, then went to Paris, first working under Lupot and then under Gand. In 1829 he founded the business in Lyons. Hippolyte was in partnership with him, 1831-48; he afterwards continued the business alone until his death in 1859. He copied the pattern of Stradivari with great ability; his instruments are always handsome, owing to the beautiful quality of the wood used, and their tone is often remarkably good; the varnish is very fine and the work most carefully finished, consequently they are increasing in commercial value. It is said he made about 350 instruments, bearing his label: "Pierre Silvestre à Lyon, 185—." When working with his brother, the label used was: "Petrus et Hippolytus Silvestre fratres fecerunt Lugdun … 183—." Bronze medals were obtained at the Paris Exhibitions in 1844 and 1855.
    5. Silvestre neveu. See "Chrétien."
    6. Simon. A maker of viols in Lyons, in rue de la Pomme-Rouge, 1568-73. Only his Christian name is known, as in all the documents in which it appears, a blank space is left for the surname, which has never been filled in.
    7. Simon. Was working at Salzburg in 1722.

  2. A dictionary of violin makers (n.d.)

    Silvestre, Pierre, brother of Hippolyte; b. Aug. 9, 1801, at Sommerville, near Nancy; d. 1859, Lyons. Was also a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, …

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    1. Siciliano, Gioacchino, son of Antonio Siciliano. Was working in Venice about 1680.
    2. Silva, Joan Vieira da. Was working in Lisbon about 1700. A cither is known of his, inlaid with tortoiseshell and ivory, with six pairs of wire strings.
    3. Silvestre, Hippolyte, b. Dec. 14, 1808, Saint-Nicolas-du-Port (Meurthe); d. Dec. 3, 1879, Sommerville, near Nancy. Was first a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, then of J. B. Vuillaume at Paris. In 1831 he joined his brother Pierre at Lyons, and worked with him till 1848. On the death of Pierre in 1859 he again took up the business, and continued in it till 1865, when he transferred it to H. Chrétien, his sister's son, and retired to Sommerville, where he died.
    4. Silvestre, Pierre, brother of Hippolyte; b. Aug. 9, 1801, at Sommerville, near Nancy; d. 1859, Lyons. Was also a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, then went to Paris, first working under Lupot and then under Gand. In 1829 he founded the business in Lyons. Hippolyte was in partnership with him, 1831-48; he afterwards continued the business alone until his death in 1859. He copied the pattern of Stradivari with great ability, his instruments are always handsome, owing to the beautiful quality of the wood used, and their tone is often remarkably good; the varnish is very fine and the work most carefully finished, consequently they are increasing in commercial value. It is said he made about 350 instruments bearing his label: "Pierre Silvestre à Lyon, 185—" When working with his brother the label used was: Petrus et Hippolytus Silvestre frères fecerunt Lugdun . 183—" Bronze medals were obtained at the Paris Exhibitions in 1844 and 1855.
    5. Silvestre neveu See "Chrétien."
    6. Simon A maker of viols in Lyons, in rue de la Pomme-Rouge, 1568-73. Only his Christian name is known, as in all the documents in which it appears, a blank space is left for the surname, which has never been filled in.
    7. Simon. Was working at Salzburg in 1772.

  3. An encyclopedia of the violin (1925)

    SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801, d. 1859. A pupil of Blaise in Mirecourt. As apprentice he worked with Lupot and Grand (père) and finished …

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    1. SICILIANO, GIOACCHINO, Venice, 1670 to 1680.
    2. SILVESTRE, HIPP C., vide Chretien.
    3. SILVESTRE, HIPPOLYTE, Lyon, b. 1808, d. 1879.
    4. SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801, d. 1859. A pupil of Blaise in Mirecourt. As apprentice he worked with Lupot and Grand (père) and finished his artistic education with them. In 1829 he opened his own shop and conducted the business in partnership with his brother Hippolyte, who stayed with him until 1848. He was a trained master and worked with the Stradivarius model. After his death the business was conducted by his brother Hippolyte. The label used by Silvestre is reproduced on Plate 15.
    5. SIMON, CLAUDE, Paris, 1783 to 1800.
    6. SIMONIN, CHARLES, Genf, Toulouse, b. about 1815 in Mirecourt, still living in 1875.
    7. SIMPSON, JOHN, London, 1785 to 1794.
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  1. An encyclopedia of the violin (n.d.)

    SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801, d. 1859. A pupil of Blaise in Mirecourt. As apprentice he worked with Lupot and Grand (père) and finished …

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    1. SICILIANO, GIOACCHINO, Venice, 1670 to 1680.
    2. SILVESTRE, HIPP C., vide Chretien.
    3. SILVESTRE, HIPPOLYTE, Lyon, b. 1808, d. 1879.
    4. SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801, d. 1859. A pupil of Blaise in Mirecourt. As apprentice he worked with Lupot and Grand (père) and finished his artistic education with them. In 1829 he opened his own shop and conducted the business in partnership with his brother Hippolyte, who stayed with him until 1848. He was a trained master and worked with the Stradivarius model. After his death the business was conducted by his brother Hippolyte. The label used by Silvestre is reproduced on Plate 15.
    5. SIMON, CLAUDE, Paris, 1783 to 1800.
    6. SIMONIN, CHARLES, Genf, Toulouse, b. about 1815 in Mirecourt, still living in 1875.
    7. SIMPSON, JOHN, London, 1785 to 1794.

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Silvestre, Pierre, brother of Hippolyte; b. Aug. 9, 1801, at Sommerville, near Nancy; d. 1859, Lyons. Was also a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, … reported1
Places and dates of work
Silvestre, Pierre, brother of Hippolyte; b. Aug. 9, 1801, at Sommerville, near Nancy; d. 1859, Lyons. Was also a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, … reported1
Places and dates of work
Silvestre, Pierre, brother of Hippolyte; b. Aug. 9, 1801, at Sommerville, near Nancy; d. 1859, Lyons. Was also a pupil of Blaise at Mirecourt, … reported1
Places and dates of work
SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801, d. 1859. A pupil of Blaise in Mirecourt. As apprentice he worked with Lupot and Grand (père) and finished … reported1
Places and dates of work
SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801, d. 1859. A pupil of Blaise in Mirecourt. As apprentice he worked with Lupot and Grand (père) and finished … reported1
Places and dates of work
SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801, d. 1859. A pupil of Blaise in Mirecourt. As apprentice he worked with Lupot and Grand (père) and finished … reported1
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Born 1801. As printed in the cited source: “SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801” reported1
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Died 1859. As printed in the cited source: “SILVESTRE, PIERRE, Lyon, b. 1801, d. 1859” reported1

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  1. Stainer, C. (Cecie), 1867-1937, A dictionary of violin makers (London: Novello, n.d.). archive.org, dictionaryofviol00stai. https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofviol00stai.machine textcited for 1 linesource record

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  2. Stainer, C. (Cecie), 1867-1937, A dictionary of violin makers (London: Novello, n.d.). archive.org, dictionaryofviol1899stai. https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofviol1899stai.machine textcited for 1 linesource record

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  3. Stainer, C. (Cecie), 1867-1937, A dictionary of violin makers (London ; New York: Novello, Ewer, 1896). archive.org, dictionaryofviol00stai_0. https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofviol00stai_0.machine textcited for 1 linesource record

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  4. Alberto Bachmann, An encyclopedia of the violin (1925). archive.org, encyclopediaofvi0000albe_h3k7. https://archive.org/details/encyclopediaofvi0000albe_h3k7.machine textcited for 3 linessource record

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  5. Bachmann, Alberto and Ysaye, Eugene, An encyclopedia of the violin (New York, Da Capo Press, n.d.). archive.org, encyclopediaofvi0000bach_r6r5. https://archive.org/details/encyclopediaofvi0000bach_r6r5.machine textcited for 1 linesource record

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  6. Alberto Bachmann, An Encyclopedia of the Violin (1925). archive.org, encyclopediaofvi0000albe_u1d5. https://archive.org/details/encyclopediaofvi0000albe_u1d5.machine textcited for 1 linesource record

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